michael, welcome. take us back first of all to the gulf war more than two decades ago. what was it about general schwarzkopf and what he did is that made him be regarded at least by many as a hero. >> well, this is the time in which the american military did not have the confidence of the american public the way it does now. whatever people think of the wars in afghanistan or iraq, they generally believe that the military has done its part. and that wasn't the case then. so we had an all-volunteer force. is there were a lot of weapons that had not really been tried in combat like the stealth fighter, not really in operational circumstances. and they were being put to the test. and there was also the hang over from vietnam, the vietnam syndrome when people wondered could we since vietnam was certainly not a victory, could the american military really succeed in a major conflict abroad? >> warner: so really how hard was strategy, how much did he contribute to the strategy and execution? >> it was a massive undertaking and i covered it. i think a lot of people don't, even